This section contains archived questions asked of The Sky Guys in the past.
Question: I came by briefly at AOPA. We are looking for C-182 -4 partners in Raleigh NC. Please advise when you are ready to go!
Thanks,
Ernie Capone
919 363 - 7201
ecapone@nectech.com Submitted by: Ernie Capone
SkyGuys Answer: Ernie,
We just listed a nice Cessna 182.
Thanks for using PlaneQuest.com ____________________________________Question: I am a new pilot and interested in purchasing an airplane. Is there some information you can give me to help me avoid making an expensive mistake? Submitted by: Mike Sheils
SkyGuys Answer: Mike,
Visit the Buying Process Page at PlaneQuest.com. There you will find valuable information on how to avoid expensive mistakes.
Good luck in your search! ____________________________________Question: What is the best way to do a pre-purchase on an airplane that is half way across the country. Submitted by: Andy McKenna
SkyGuys Answer: Get as much information on the airplane, copy of logbooks, pictures etc. and if flying to see the airplane is not feasible then ask for the airplane to be flown to you. If this is not acceptable you should have the aiplane inspected by a manufacturer certified shop. ____________________________________Question: I'm interested in buying a cabin class twin. I have my eye on a Rockwell commander 700 but have not really been able to find a lot of info on them. Is there anywhere on the web that I could do some research on it?
Thanks
Submitted by: Alex Szucs
SkyGuys Answer: Alex,
Be sure to visit the operating cost section on our website. This will give you a good idea of the costs associated with the 700. I searched for other sites to direct you to but I didn't come up with anything. If you would like to talk with a very knowledgeable company I would suggest calling Commander Aero at the Wright Brother's Airport in Dayton, Ohio. Their phone number is 937-885-5580, ask for Charlie Wells.
Good luck in your search.
The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: SKY GUYS,
I'M THINKING ABOUT MOVING FROM A B55 BARON INTO A C90 KING AIR THAT IS RUN OUT AND WONDER WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT PUTTING 300 HOURS ON IT WITHOUT OVERHAULING THE ENGINES. THEN RESALE THE PLANE STILL RUN OUT. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS IDEA FOR BUILDING TURBO PROP TIME.
Submitted by: TIM CAPPELLI
SkyGuys Answer: Tim,
I would not recommed building time in that manner. I would suggest contacting a local companies that are operating under part 91 to see if you could fly right seat with them. There are many companies that operate with just one pilot and speaking from experience these pilots are usually very willing to help when they can.
Good Luck!
The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: I would like to search by "N" number but it appears I can't do that. Any suggestons? Submitted by: John
SkyGuys Answer: John,
Currently you can not search by "N" number. Where would you like to see this fuctionality? We will continue to update the site with the new features and welcome any additional comments or suggestions you may have.
Thanks,
The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: Sehr geehrter Sky Guys,
Sie haben ein tolles Website. Ich besitze ein Seneca II. Es ist nicht schnell aber billig. Gestern habe ich ein C-414 geflogen. Ein wunderbares Erfahrung. Ich moechte ein C414 kaufen, aber es sehr teuer. Wurden Sie sagen dass ein alter Flugzeug gut ist? Vielleicht... alter als 1975?.
Ich wunsche Ihnen alles Gutes mit dem neuen Website!
Vielen Dank
Karl Submitted by: K. Summers
SkyGuys Answer: Sehr geehrter Mr. Karl,
viele Dank fuer Ihre Frage. Wir sind beide Flugzeugemodelle geflogen und sind sehr zufrieden mit beiden Modellen. Eine Cessna 414 biete die Vorteile einer Druckkabine wie Gschwindigkeit und besseren Reisekomfort. Wir sind sicher es gibt etliche aeltere Modelle dieses Flugzeugs auf dem Markt. Solange sie sich fuer ein gut gewartetes und gepflegtes Modelle entscheiden, sollte es Ihnen gute Dienste erweisen. Schauen Sie bitte gelegentlich auf unserer Website vorbei, da wi ____________________________________Question: Hello Guys,
I'm curious about leasing a light twin in order to build multi time. The major
drawback to flying as a renter has been scheduling (in my case). A six or twelve month lease would give the flexibility to pack in many flight hours
around one's schedule and perhaps share
operating costs. Have you heard of this
beeing done? Do you or someone you know
lease light twins? Thanks in advance!
Submitted by: Brian Loewecke
SkyGuys Answer: Brian,
Sorry for the delay getting back to you. I was in your shoe not too long ago trying to build time. I know what you're going through. To answer the leasing question, YES leasing of light twins is done everyday. It is usually done by buying a block of time to be used up in a certain amount of time. We lease a Cessna 414 and it works well for both the leasee and leasor. I would suggest talking with some of the FBO's in your local area to find out if anyone they know is leasing. If the ____________________________________Question: What is the cost for listing an aircraft on your site? Submitted by: Kent Cook
SkyGuys Answer: Kent,
For the months of April and May, all listings
are FREE for as long it takes to sell your
airplane(s). All we ask is that you delete them when they sell.
We are planning on charging private sellers $1.50 per day per listing. Dealers/Brokers will have a special rate based on the number of aircraft they expect to list with us each year. The discount is from 10% to 60% off the regular price.
The response to the patent pending "side by side aircraft comparison" from buyers has b ____________________________________Question: Hey Mr. Mcnamara,
How are things out in Cincinnati. I
thought I would check out the web site. It looks great. Say hello to the family for me. Hope to see you soon.
Brian Submitted by: Brian Corcoran
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Brian,
So sorry that this response has taken so long. I just found out that the person who was suppose to be answering questions didn't forward this to me or answer it.
The site is going well. We just enhanced it with a fresher look and an online credit card to cover payments. Say a prayer that we get a lot!
We are going out to Erin's graduation in May. So, hopefully, we'll get a chance to celebrate & relax.
Are you going or are you all still "chilling"?
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I really like your web site. It has saved alot of time. Instead of working formula's (Like AOPA's) for aircraft ownership costs, I can look up your ready made chart, and the figures come out to less than 1% difference between you and AOPA.
My question is why on your charts is the Commander 114 ($146.19/hr)so much more expensive to operate than the Cessna 182 RG ($95.50/hr). I would think that the prices would be comparable.
Thanks Submitted by: Dave Stock
SkyGuys Answer: Dave,
Thanks for your question. Ownership costs are based on historic data from our users. We feel this gives the most realistic data possible for our users. The differences is operation costs are usually a result of either fuel burn, maintenance and/or insurance.
Thanks,
The Skyguys ____________________________________Question: What sources do you use for your operational expenses? Conklin? Submitted by: RC
SkyGuys Answer: RC,
Our members supply us the cost data. We feel this will give our users the most accurate cost of ownership for the 270 aircraft we have listed.
Thanks,
The Skyguys ____________________________________Question: I AM THINKING OF BUYING A THIRD SHARE IN A 77 PIPER TURBO ARROW FOR 25K. NOT BEING FAMILIAR WITH 3 WAY PARTNERSHIPS, I NEED ANY HELP YOU CAN OFFER SO I DONT GET INTO A BAD SITUATION. MY MAIN CONCERN IS ONE PARTNER FLYING TWICE AS MUCH AS ANOTHER, AND HOW THAT IS HANDLED. THANKS Submitted by: GARY BROWN
SkyGuys Answer: Gary,
Sorry for the delay getting back to you. We had a problem with our mail server.
Partnerships can be a great way to own a plane. I recommend you have everything in writing prior to your purchase of the aircraft. AOPA can help with the proper documentation for partnerships and the dos and don't associated with them.
I recommend you have everything in writing prior to your purchase of the aircraft.
Thanks,
The Skyguys ____________________________________Question: Sky Guys, I'm thinking of picking up a
cessna 150 with a 150hp conversion, or converting one. What kind of performance would one expect from such
an airplane? Submitted by: Gary Hays
SkyGuys Answer: Gary,
Sorry for the delay getting back to you. We had a problem with our mail server.
I don't know of anyone with this conversion, so unfortunately I can't help you. You might want to contact the Cessna Association for possible performance expectations.
Thanks,
The Skyguys ____________________________________Question: I travel the Pacific NW and get grounded because of ice routinely. I am considering buying a plane instead of renting, but my question is this: Is there a single engine plane (i.e. Mooney) that has known ice capabilities that is priced under $90K? Obviously this would be a used plane.
Any suggestions would help. Submitted by: John J . Romanski
SkyGuys Answer: Dear John,
Ice questions leave me cold! Especially, single engine.
First, no pilot wants to be in ice for very long and only uses deice and anti-ice equipment to "buy time" in order to get out of it.
Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any planes under $90K with ice protection. The TKS system is at least $17-25K offered by Aerospace Systems & Technology, Inc. for Bonanzas, 206's, 210's Mooney M20J/K/L, Comdr 500B, Shrike; Trinidad TB20/TB21.
These prices are from 1999 according to the ____________________________________Question: I am looking to buy a c-172 and in the search results at planequest was included a plane which looks to me like a 172 but was listed as a T-41B. Is this a military designation? I have never heard of a cessna T-41B. Submitted by: Chris Jans
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Chris,
Good eyes. Good for the military! Yes, you are correct. A T-41 is a 172 with a 200HP engine used for training by the Army and Air Force.
In fact, that is what this SkyGuy learned on back in 1968. It is a very nice plane.
Good Flying,
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: Your operating costs do not specifically call out the price of an annual. Is that figured into the maintenance, engine reserve, prop T/R costs, etc., or would that be an additional cost? (For that matter, what would a 100 hour run if theairplane was used in a commercial endeavor?) Submitted by: Bryan
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Bryan,
Great question! We'd love to be able to put the costs of annuals in, but everyone's experience is different. So, we ask each owner to include the annual cost in the maintenance section. Just take your yearly maintenance costs including the annual divided by the hours you flew in that year to come up with an hourly variable maintenance cost.
Just click on your type of plane, click on "add info" and put in your own info. Then compare your experience to the national average. A ____________________________________Question: Is there a spreadsheet or online database that contains performance data on piston singles? Submitted by: John Englander
SkyGuys Answer: Dear John,
Thanks for visiting our site. We have limited performance info from the FAA data base.
But, try aircraftdealers.net for more detail.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: Hello, Sky Guys!
I am not a member, pilot, nor a/c owner, but I do have a question.
I am a donor to an evangelical organization that stated once in its monthly magazine that it owns an aircraft to complete its mission. I always thought that leasing a/c is much more cost effective in some cases. I also thought this would be especially true for organizations that occasionally use airplanes to get around, yet cannot be tied to scheduled service. What is your view? Submitted by: Brian Daly
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Brian,
Good thinking!
Yes, planes are often a cost effective alternative especially when considering the value of an individual's time.
If planes were not cost effective, they would not continue to be business tools, as they continue to be.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: in my add the speed and fuel consomption figures were way off.and I couldnt get all my radio gear in top speed at 75% should be 163mph and fuel should be 14.5 at 6500'. my 618 apolo got omited. Submitted by: John Lillie
SkyGuys Answer: Dear John,
Thanks for taking you time to put in an ad. Sorry for the trouble you had.
You can logon 24/7, put in you name & password, check how many times you specs have been viewed, then edit your listing, as you see fit. Just click on EDIT on the left side navigation list.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I have a Beautiful& totally redone 1979 Rockwell Commander 700. I need to sell the plane due to slow business times. What would be the best way to get the plane advertised??
Submitted by: Steve Ingalsbe
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Steve,
Thanks for the leading question.
If you check out our "Selling Process", you'll see that we suggest you advertise in TAP, ASO, Controller and of course, PlaneQuest.com!
You wouldn't want to miss a qualified buyer, so we recommend ads in several places.
We are about half the cost and deliver 1000% more!
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I noticed you had a question recently from Alex Scucs, who was looking for a Rockwell Commander 700 twin. We have one for sale. See http://www.YourHomeNow.com/rockwell.htm or call Independent Technologies... 320-354-2929 and ask for Greg.
Is there any way to contact Alex Scucs? Submitted by: Greg Molenaar
SkyGuys Answer:
____________________________________Question: I currently have 800 hours in a Saratoga SP. I have on order one of the new jets coming out, the Safire. What would be your suggestion for transitioning from the Saratoga to the small jet? Submitted by: Frank Nocifora
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Frank,
Great question. You probably have some time to transition. So, ask the manufacturer what they are suggesting. They are working with the insurance companies to provide the best solution.
You might also consider developing a relationship with a retired airline or military jet pilot who will fly with you, while both you and the insurance company are comfortable with you flying solo!
Mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: Mike McNamera,
Thank you for calling me and introducing me to your web site. I tried to sign up for membership but got an error message that said something to the effect that my software doesn't support an interface with yours. I looked at your buying process and wanted to have it mailed to me. Can you do that without the membership info? I am happy to register by mail if that will help. My address is 2707 Colby Ave. Suite 1208, Everett, WA 98201
Thanks, John Shaw Submitted by: John Shaw
SkyGuys Answer: John,
Thanks for your inquiry and for taking your time to try to login.
We have recently had the site down for enhancements and a fresh look. Please check it out and try again.
Good Flying,
Mike@PlaneQuest.com ____________________________________Question: Im looking at purchasing a 1963 Cessna P172D with a 175hp.The seller is saying that it is a powermatic and gets 9 gallons per hour.
Will it be a better buy than a regular 1963 Cessna 172D with a 150 hp engine? Submitted by: Armando Alarcon
SkyGuys Answer: Armando,
Sorry for the delay getting back to you.
A fuel consumption of only 9 gph is great. I can't tell you which plane is better. But if the fuel consumption is close to the same, the extra 25 horse power sure will be nice when you need them.
Thanks,
The Skyguys ____________________________________Question: I am looking for an aircraft that seats 5 (two adults, three children 7,9,11) comfortably, that falls in the performance range of a Beech Sierra A24, but has fixed gear (due to insurance costs). Any recomendations?
Thank you! Submitted by: Sean
SkyGuys Answer: Sean,
I'm not sure what your price range is, but you may want to look at the Cessna 210. It's a pretty reliable aircraft that should be able to carry the load.
Thanks,
The Skyguys ____________________________________Question: I am currently considering purchasing either a 182 or a M20 c/e/f. Do you know of any one that provides flight instruction in either of these types. Submitted by: Dennis Forhart
SkyGuys Answer: Dennis,
I'm not sure where you are from, but I'm sure just about any local airport will have instructors qualified in the Cessna 182 and may be even the Mooney. If you have difficulty finding a Mooney Instructor, contact the Mooney Association and they should be able to help.
Thanks,
The Skyguys. ____________________________________Question: Hi guys I'm shopping for a small twin to move freight.After looking at the operating costs of a baron 58 and a seneca iv how can the fuel consumption be so different. What about cargo weight I hear the baron is very limited on aft c.g. and position of cargo? Submitted by: Jeff Giebelhouse
SkyGuys Answer: Jeff,
sorry for the delay getting back to you. The fuel consumption difference between the Baron and the Seneca is a result of the difference in engine size. The Baron has almost 100 hp more per side. This helps give the Baron a better useful load than the Seneca. I've flown both airplanes and both are great planes, although I'm a little partial to the Baron.
Thanks for your question.
The skyguys ____________________________________Question: I am curious as to why the production of the Cessna 337 has been stopped. Was it perhaps a safety issue, maybe a problem with the cooling of the rear engine? Submitted by: Ed Gott
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Ed,
Thanks for your question about the end of production on the Cessna 337. Sorry it has taken so long to reply. We have been spending lots of time enhancing the site and developing our relationship with AOPA.
Cessna would really be the best source for a complete answer. But, from an economic point of view, if the plane had been selling well enough to generate a profit, it would probably still be in production. The economy, insurance, rising costs and other risks were all factors. ____________________________________Question: Our company is looking into upgradeing to a turbine aircraft. I have been trying to find a place that ranks different aircraft according to safety, do you know of any such service? Submitted by: Chris Shaver
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Chris,
Thanks for your question on turbine aircraft safety. Aviation Consumer used to do a rating years ago, but I'm not sure when the last one was done.
Basically, turbine powered business aircraft have a better safety record than the airlines!
However, some planes do have a higher accident rate than others. The King Air is the safest turbine powered plane, even compared to jets. Comparatively, the MU2 has a 6x's higher accident rate. The Citation is the safest business jet.
____________________________________Question: Our non-profit organization is in the process of selecting and purchasing a 1964-1968 Cessna "P" or "U" model.
We have found the exact dimensions of the cargo door opening of the "U" model, but have been unsuccessful in finding the dimensions of the "P" model cargo door opening.
Could you please send us the height & width of the opening on the "P" model?
Your assistance is greatly appreciated.
Michael Olson
Executive Vice President
Global Partnership Ministries Submitted by: Michael Olson
SkyGuys Answer: Michael,
We don't have the exact measurements but I would suggest calling Cessna or the Cessna Owners Association.
Good luck,
The Skyguys ____________________________________Question: When looking at your operating costs for a King Air 200 VS. a Lear 24 I was surprised to see the cost per SM within $.04 I didn't see a cost for parts used in the normal maintenance of either aircraft. What should I use for that for these two aircraft? Do you include inspections for and other less frequent things? Submitted by: Tim
SkyGuys Answer: Tim,
Thanks for visiting Planequest.com. All our cost information comes from our users. Based upon their experience, average costs per mile are calculated. The maintenance section refers to all scheduled and unscheduled maintenance in a given year divided by the number of hours flown that year. This gives us a cost per hour which may vary from year to year but should be representative of the average cost since it comes from a large sample of users.
Thanks,
The Skyguys
____________________________________Question: We are looking for an aircraft. First choice was a Cherokee 180, now thinking of purchasing a new Cessna Skyhawk SP. All research was done on the 180. Do you have any pro's or con's on the SP? Additionally, what is the typical negotiation range on a new purchase and do they lose value as in a new car purchase when you buy it or does it appreciate immediately? Submitted by: Carmen
SkyGuys Answer:
____________________________________Question: I am a student pilot who has about 70 hours. I am currently flying older 172's. I ahave a friend who took me up in his bonanza B36TC, a big difference. I want to get my own plane, carry six, 160 knots, four hours duration, IFR platform. Any ideas, avoiding complexity and high insurtance cost. Submitted by: Terry Kohn
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Terry,
Thanks for your excellent question about upgrading to a 6 place 160 knots single.
I have had several customers in your situation over the past 20 years. One even wanted to go directly to a Baron, which he did. 9 months and 200 hours later after a committed training program, he was a multiengine instrument rated pilot. He still has his plane and has been flying safely for over 20 years.
I would recommend that you work with a aviation professional who has experience in helpi ____________________________________Question: I see condition ratings for the exterior and interior of airplanes, but how do I know if my plane interior is a '5' and not a '7'. It seems that some condition ratings are fairly arbitrary. Is there some sort of standard table or summary that I can review? Thanks. Submitted by: Chad Oliver
SkyGuys Answer: Chad,
Thanks for visiting Planequest.com.
You are right, rating the interior and exterior of and aircraft is somewhat arbitrary. Most dealers will rate their airplanes between a 5 and a 10. The only 10 is a new airplane or fresh paint and interior. A 5 is not your average interior, rather it's considered by most dealers to be in poor condition. So the rating system is really between a 5 and 10. A 9 would be and interior that is not new but is in perfect condition. An 8 is not perfect ____________________________________Question: What type of formula do you use to arrive at the projected costs of aircraft ownership?For example,the insurance costs you lists for a Cessna 172 are double the costs of an older Mooney M20.You have a very insightful listing but I am a little confused on some of the figures.
Thank you,
Brad Stallings Submitted by: Brad Stallings
SkyGuys Answer: Brad,
Thanks for visiting Planequest.com.
The operating cost area uses information supplied to us by the users of our site. Owners of particular aircaft can enter their operating cost information and submit it for review by planequest. The data is then averaged into the existing data using a weighted average formula that I personally don't know much about. The costs of operating an aircraft varies depending upon your flying experience and your geographic location. This is especially true ____________________________________Question: I Know i need a single engine plane for up to 6 pepole, most of my trips are in the range of 700 miles of distance the operating cost is impotant.
What plane do you recomed Submitted by: Edilberto Montemayor
SkyGuys Answer: Ediberto,
There are a few good 6 passenger airplanes in the single engine category. The biggest problem with a 6 seater is not over overloading it with passengers or bags. I would look at the Piper Cherokee Six or Saratoga, the Cessna 210, and the Bonanza A36.
The useful loads are between 1300 to 1600 pounds. The Cherokee Six 300 horse power has about a 1600 pound useful load and and the others are about 1400 pounds. As you know the weights of a particular make and model of an airplane wi ____________________________________Question: I have been considering the purchase of a 1970 Twin Comanche. I have been told by a few A/P's that parts availability is difficult and expensive. What is your view on this subject. Thanks. Submitted by: M. Mathes
SkyGuys Answer: M. Mathes
I spoke to our mechanics and to New Piper at 561-567-4361 regarding part availability for the 1970 Twin Comanche. Our mechanics warned of some possible delays when ordering parts not in stock. But also said this is no different than any other older aircraft. These parts do tend to be more expensive because they're not produced in large quanities. New Piper also confirmed that they do support all parts for the 1970 Comanche.
I hope this information helps you make your decision. ____________________________________Question: I'm new to aviation. I have an interest in three types of planes: Ercoupe, Piper 140 Cherokee, and Cessna 152. My intended use is purely recreational, with no trips over 500 miles. I need at least a 2 seat craft. How would you rate the three for this type user? Also, being a auto mechanic, I may be interested in a project. How much can be done by an individual? Am I better off financially/safety wise to have a pro do it? Maybe they are all cheap enough to buy a good plane to begin with? Submitted by: Boyce Rampey
SkyGuys Answer: Boyce,
The Cherokee 140 has the longest range of about 450 nm. The Aircoupe is next at about 380 nm and the Cessna 152's range is about 315 nm, all with about 30 mins reserves. As far as parts availability the Piper and Cessna are going to be more readily available. I have flown the 152 and 140 and have found them to be very stable aircraft.
The FAA allows pilots to do "simple" maintenance such as changing the oil. I would suggest you talk with a local mechanic to find out if he woul ____________________________________Question: Would you know the cockpit dbls of a Cessna 421C? Submitted by: J. Spencer
SkyGuys Answer: Thanks for your question. I am sorry I don't know the exact dbls. Try giving Cessna a call at 1-316-517-6000.
Please let anyone you may know that is trying to sell their aircraft that they can list on our site for $1.00 a day. We are currently getting over 400,000 hits per day.
Thanks
Andy
andy@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: What are the compatible years/serial numbers for a 77' pa28-140?
Submitted by: Miguel
SkyGuys Answer: Miguel,
The serial numbers for the 1977 PA-28-140 are
28-7725001 thru 28-7725291.
The Skyguys ____________________________________Question: which is the best way of finding jump-planes for skydiving? given their interior is stripped, they usually cost much less but through searching the internet i haven't come across a site that offers jump-planes c-182 for sale.
can shed some light on this matter?
thanks,
kerb Submitted by: kerb
SkyGuys Answer: Kerb,
I don't know of any specific skydiving sites with aircraft for sale. I would suggest going to your local skydiving club and asking them or looking in the clasified ads in the back of a skydiving magazine.
Good Luck,
The Skyguys ____________________________________Question: I have seen several planes for sale with a descriptive Robertson or Miller STOL. I assume that the name is the manufacturer but what does STOL represent? Submitted by: Joe DeFelice
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Joe:
Thanks for your question. Guess we all throw around abreviations like everyone knows what they mean.
In this case STOL means "Short Take-Off & Landing". This is typically done with modified wing tips, possibly a redesigned leading edge, flaps, prop or any combination. There is also typically a trade-off as cruise speeds are reduced on STOL planes.
____________________________________Question: I am planning on purchasing a 68 C150. I am getting the loan through a bank. My question is do I need to do a title search to see if their are any outstanding lien's on the airplane, or will my financial institution do this? Thanks for your help. Submitted by: Steve Kartfchfner
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Steve,
Thanks for your excellent question. The bank will more than likely do a title search, so just ask them for a copy. Otherwise, get one through many of the excellent title search companies.
If you are an AOPA member, they'll do one at a discount.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I am looking to buy another helicopter I currently own a 71 hughes 269C and also have time in R22 and R44. Iwould like to stay away from the robbies for personal reasons. What I'm trying to find out is it cheaper to go with an Enstrom or a Scwheizer. I know the operating cost of either would probably compare to a 44. Also everyone says to stay away from an Enstrom but never says why. (looking at 280 models)
Any info would be a great help. Submitted by: John
SkyGuys Answer: Wish we could be more helpful with helicopter questions, but you best bet is to contact a helicopter dealer near you to get the best advise.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: What is the difference between the Cessna 411 and the 414? It seems that the 411 has quite a bit more HP and thus greater cruise speed. If that is so, than why are 411's so cheap? Is it a maintainence hog? Submitted by: Nicholas Sikes
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Nicholas,
The two planes are quite different. Actually, the 411, which is non-pressurized, has the same dimensions as the original 421.
The first 411's were built in 1965. After a run of about 300, production ended in 1968. Like the 421, it has geared-turbocharged engines, which require more pilot care and have a lower TBO [1200 hours].
414's on the otherhand are pressurized, turbocharged, at least 1400 hour TBO engined, and a little bigger and faster[on less HP] than the 411. T ____________________________________Question: I am looking for an alternative to a Falcon 20. I need similar speed and payload but less aquisition and operating costs. What would you suggest? Submitted by: Brad
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Brad,
Good question! The Falcon 20 is a great plane.
But, you might go to our Operating Costs an look at other jets like the Sabreliner, Hawker, Jetstar, etc. There are going to be trade-offs. Seldom in this business to we get more than what we pay for.
You didn't say much about your mission or budget, but those are the two factors to begin with. If you'd like some more personalized help, e-mail me directly.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I have been considering buying a project airplane and have found one that has been sitting for years. There is no damage history, but sitting has caused the airplane to wear and fade. It is located all the way across the country, so how should I go about deciding what the airplane is worth/what to offer? Submitted by: Kelly Atkins
SkyGuys Answer: That is a tough question.
If you aren't already a member of EAA, please join. They have lots of local and national help.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I just came across your ad in AOPA Magazine. I am in the market for a Piper Lance, non-turbo. You mention that ads fron aircraftdealers.net can be added to the PQ spreadsheet with one click, but I cannot figure out how to do that. Also, the link for the PQ spreadsheet brings up the Plane Buying Process spreadsheet which is a time line, not a comparison. How do I get the comparison spreadsheet to add other aircraft information into? Thanks,Paul Submitted by: Paul Fertitta
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Paul,
Thanks for using our unique comparison spreadsheet.
Only those plane listed on PlaneQuest.com can be compared "Side by Side" in up to 50 customizable categories.
ADN [aircraftdealer.net] has performance information which can be reached with a "click" and we have operating cost data, which we share directly with them for their members using their site.
To use our spreadsheet, first go to "View Listings"; click on "single engine land"; click on Piper Lance; then click on "S ____________________________________Question: Is it possible to convert a PA44-180T (turbo Seminole) to a standard PA44-180?I could not find any STC and it appears that both aircraft share the same Type Data Sheet. Submitted by: Tony Perna
SkyGuys Answer: That is a good question for the Piper owners association.
Check them out at www.piperowner.org.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: Can you tell me where I can get information on the T41B? Would you recommend them to purchase? Knowing the plane was used for military training, are they built more stout than a 172? Submitted by: Thad Bettner
SkyGuys Answer: T41B's may be available. I don't know if they were built any stronger, but I know they took a beating. I learned on one as a young Army Aviator. T41's had a bigger engine, 200HP I think.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I'm thinking of buying a G reg airplane what will I haft to do to get it reg as a N? Does it matter what state I base it in? Submitted by: Dan
SkyGuys Answer: Check with your local maintenance shop, but you will need a special FAA inspection done before you can get it registered in the US.
mike@planequest ____________________________________Question: I am considering a 6 person plane. What do you recomend to start looking at?
Thanks,
Ron. Submitted by: Ron
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Ron,
There are many excellent 6 passenger planes, both singles and twins. I would suggest that the first step is to call an aviation insurance broker. Let them know about your qualifications and they will advise you on what you will be qualified in.
Next, seek the help of a qualified sale professional who can guide you and help you make the best decisions for your purposes.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: How do I find private, individual general aviation "searchers" (?) who, for a fee, assist in locating aircraft for a prospective buyer?
Incidentally, today (8/13) is my first time using your site, but regardless of how wide my entering fields, all screens returned "no aircraft matched your search criteria." Suggestions? Submitted by: Michael Ward
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Michael,
Thanks for your inquiry. Concerning your search for planes on our site, click on "View Listings", then click on the type of plane first, i.e., "single engine land". Then, click on the make and model [270+ are on the site]. Then, you'll be shown all that are for sale with specs and pictures. Sorry if you had a problem initially, please try again.
Concerning your effort to find a qualified professional to help you make the best decisions in finding and buying a plane, go to ____________________________________Question: How many hours a year must a pilot fly to make it worth buying an airplane rather than renting? Submitted by: RANDY BAIRD GIEBEL
SkyGuys Answer: Great question!
For some people, 50 hours per year is enough. For others it might be 150 hours. Your current cash flow, before and after tax, is one consideration. Your personal disposition to flying planes flown by others can be an important concern. The value you might receive from the plane always being available is another factor.
So, it isn't just price. It's the overall value.
I would suggest reviewing your concerns with a qualified aircraft sales professional.
Mike@PlaneQuest. ____________________________________Question: I am thinking about buying into a partnership in a Merlin 3B. 1/8 share about $115K, hourly rate about $550/hr including 1 pilot. I think about 5000hrs on plane. Is this a good deal? Any suggestions for objective information?
Thanks Submitted by: James Lieberman
SkyGuys Answer: Dear James,
Thanks for your question. Partnerships are an excellent way to enjoy the benefits of business aviation at an "affordable price".
However, without knowing the exact plane, its age, its maintenance history, its current maintenance status, how many hours a year it will be used by all the partners, how many hours you plan on using it, plus dozens of more factors, it is impractical to advise you. Your best bet is to hire a consultant who knows turboprops and let him work on your b ____________________________________Question: HI, my question is....Im buying a 1979 piper turbo lance..it has 1280 hrs on the engine with a tbo of 2000...my insurance is 2100.00 a year hanger is 200.00...what should i figure as my base operating cost per hour to cover engine overhaul, maintance ,insurance and the unexpected....come on sky guy...lay it on me.......don s pitts pa Submitted by: Donald Snyder
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Don,
Thanks for the well explained question.
The best answer is to click on "Operating Costs" on the 'PlaneQuest.com'home page. It is actually an interative calculator. We have operating cost averages from owners on over 270 makes & models. Just select a Piper Turbo Lance/Saratoga, then click on "Add Info" to see 2 columns of costs. They are the current averages provided by those using our site. Use the column on the right to do "what if" questions. Then compare your assumptions to ____________________________________Question: I'm new to the general aviation market and am looking at your operating costs. Can you define some of the terms for me or let me know where your figures came from? I'm looking at "hourly engine reserve" and "maintenance cost/hour."
Thanks,
Paul Submitted by: Paul Jachman
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Paul,
Thanks for visiting PlaneQuest and for taking your time to write us.
First, our data comes from owners and operators of planes. Our calculator just approves the data and adds it to the rest. The result is an average number that you can use to compare your own experience of proforma plan.
Hourly engine reserves represent the cost of overhaul divided by the number of hours the engine lasted of will [hopefully] last until overhaul. Some people actually set aside this amount in ____________________________________Question: I'm looking for an A&P mechanic that has 5-10 years experience working on the Beech Jet. Do you know of anywhere I could look to find this type of mechanic? Submitted by: Tim Webb
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Tim,
Thank you for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and to write us.
The Beechjet has become a very popular plane and is typically maintained at Raytheon/Beech Service Centers. You might look there first. Several employment firms and web site might be another place.
You could also post ads in some of the trade journals. Hope that helps. Good luck!
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: Hello sky guys. For some reason I am having a hard time finding Commander aircraft(112,114) made between the years of 1980 and 1990. Did commander make aircraft during this time period? Submitted by: Ron Andrews
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Ron,
Thank you for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and to write us.
The Commander 112 started production in 1972 and ended production in 1979 with a turbocharged version. The 114 was produced between 1976 and 1979.
Then beginning in 1992 the 114B was built again until 1999. In 2000, the 115 began production.
So, as you can see none were built in the 1980's.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I am planning to fly 230n miles a day. 4 days a week. Occasionally I will go 800NM.
I would like the lowest cost per sm aircraft that is faster than 130kts.
If the price break is huge, I will goslower than 130 :-)
What would you recommend.
It would be nice if it seated 4, and must seat at least 2.
Submitted by: jason venner
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Jason,
Thank you for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and to write us.
If you will be flying 230 nm daily, that's about 46,000 miles per year. At 130 knots you'll be fling 353 hours. My recommendation would be a retractable 4 seater. There are many to choose from.
You can start by visiting our "Operating Cost" section with over 270 makes and models. You can use it as an interactive calculator and plug in your own proforma numbers.
I would also highly recommend consulting a ____________________________________Question: I'm looking into buying a single or twin to haul cargo as economically as possible. Have any suggestions? Submitted by: Einar Gunnar Einarsson
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Einar,
Thank you for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and to write us.
Concerning your question about a single or a twin for cargo, I'm sorry to give such a stock answer. But the variables are many. Your best bet is to contact a sales professional to work with. If you don't know one in your area, let me know. I'll try to recommend some.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: Where can I go to get an appraisal on an airplane I'm looking at? I have copies of the log from the last annual, instrument list etc.
Thanks,
Bruce G. Submitted by: Bruce G. Newell
SkyGuys Answer:
____________________________________Question: Which experimental aircraft comes equipped with a safe recovery parachute which is installed on the top? Submitted by: michael vivian
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Michael,
Thanks for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and for writing us.
I don't know about "experimental", but the production Cirrus is the only one with a parachute. However, when it is used, the aircraft will be totaled. So, the question is: When the time comes, will you believe that you can fly the plane safely to a landing, or will you leave it up to an "uncontrolable parachute"?
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I am considering purchasing a P-337. I have looked at several P-210's and feel that I could get pressurized comfort and twin capability for $100,000 less than the 210. Is this true? What are the problems associated with the 337.
Thanks
Mike Demple
Submitted by: Mike Demple
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Mike,
Thanks for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and to write us.
You are right! A 1978 Pressurized 337 is less expensive than a 1978 P210 per the Bluebook. But only by $54,000. Why? It is supply and demand. There are more pilots who will qualify for a single like a P210 and the operating costs will be less. Concerning the P337, you should talk with a qualified A&P, as well as sales professional, who specializes in Cessnas before making and expensive mistake. Why do things usual ____________________________________Question: Is there any type of report that includes cockpit decible levels of specific makes and models of general aviation aircraft? Submitted by: Peter
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Peter,
Thanks for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and to write us.
Concerning decible levels in a cockpit, you might try Aviation Consumer or Bose. Other than that and 35 years of experience with a hearing loss in one ear, I'll make one recommendation. Wear and ANR headset every time you fly.
Mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I am looking to purchase a Cessna 401 and would like to know about relevant AD's that may be of importance. Any available information on the 401 would be greatly appreciated as well.
Thank you!
Sincerely
Eric Bryant
Submitted by: Eric Bryant
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Eric,
Thanks for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and to write a question.
A reputable A&P, who can presumably do your prepurchase inspection will have such an AD list. A qualified A&P, along with an experienced 401 sales professional, can help you buy the best plane for your budget.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I noticed you have a section for operating cost (I am so glad I found it). I am looking for a King Air 90 and am trying to figure the numbers. My question is the Engine reserve shown in the Operating Cost page is that PER ENGINE or is it for Both. I noticed for a B100 the Engine reserve was $75 per hour. Thanks in advance. Submitted by: Jonathan Mayo
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Jonathan,
Thanks for taking your time to use Panequest and to write us a question.
Concerning operating costs for engine reserves, it is for 2 engines on multi-engine aircraft, as is fuel consumed. I double check B100's with 5400 hour TBO's and it is definitely for 2 engines. However, the best numbers will come from a thourough examination of the rotable items list and recommended parts overhaul list on your particular engines.
Mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: Hello My company is in the market for an aircraft we like the performance of the Cirrus SR22 but need six seats and our looking at the B-36 or saratoga is one better than the other please help I am very confused and dont want to make a 300-400K mistake
Submitted by: Troy Sufferling
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Troy,
Thank you for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and to write us.
Great question! You didn't say much about you mission or who would be filling the 6 seats.
Both aircraft are popular; however, if you don't want to make a mistake, I've got a few suggestions.
First, take those six passengers, find a Bonanza and a Saratoga and just sit in them. Then, do a weight and balance. Find out how much weight is left for fuel. finally, see if that amount of fuel will do 70% of your tr ____________________________________Question: I am considering the purchase of a single engine piston AC soon and have checked many types etc. I would like your opinion of the fastest ( not high perf ) GA and the most cost efficient AC on the market. Sincerely, Fred Submitted by: Fred
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Fred,
Thanks for visiting PlaneQuest and for taking your time to ask a question.
If I had that answer, I'd be in another business.
I'm sure there are some 2 seater kitbuilt planes out there that the EAA web site would recommend.
Then, there are some new fixed gear 4 place speedsters, the Cirrus and the Lancair that are extremely fast and cost efficient.
You indicated that high performance wasn't an interest, but you will find more speed and efficiency any time you can put the g ____________________________________Question: i was looking at the operating costs section, i am wondering where you guys got the hours/year.. is it an average, why arent they all the same hours, to make it easier to compare total cost per hour Submitted by: Burke Eiteljorg
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Burke,
Thanks for visiting PlaneQuest and for taking your time to ask a question.
Concerning operating costs, all the numbers come from actual owners and operators of planes who use our information. We appreciate the time they take to enter their own experience and compare it to the average of other owners and operators. We then review their submitted data and approve it for inclusion into an updated average.
You can do proforma "what if" calculations and make all the hourly use d ____________________________________Question: I am looking to to paint my 1973 C414.
I live in Indianapolis,IN. Could You please recommend a good paint shop with in 300 ml. radius. I am also thinking about new iterior. Submitted by: Simon
SkyGuys Answer: Dearr Simon,
Thanks for visiting PlaneQuest and for taking your time to ask a question.
When I'm looking for a paint shop in a given geographical area, I call around to the nearby maintenance shops and ask their recommendations.
There are some good shops within 300 miles of Indy. You might check with the folks at Indianapolis Aviation, Indy Aero and at Raytheon.
They may be able to give you some good advice and leads.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I'm looking for a STC for a Cessna 180 skydiving door.
If it exists, please let me know where I can find it.
Thx Submitted by: Erwin Schlager
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Erwin,
Thanks taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and to ask us a question.
Unfortunately, the 'SkyGuys' have failed miserably and have been unable to find anyone or any place that knows about a skydiving door STC for a C-180. Maybe if someone else reads this, they can be of help.
We do have a few suggestions:
* Check with the folks running a skydiving operation or a Skydiving Association.
* Check with www.cessna.org
Good Flying & Jumping!
The SkyGuys
In ____________________________________Question: Looking at your operating cost breakdown for King Air 200's. I really appreciate the info that you make available. Question: Does your hourly maintenance cost reflect the cost of paint and interior or is P&I not included in the operating cost info?
Steve Wagner DCFS....Thanks!
Submitted by: Steve Wagner
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Steve:
Thanks for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and to ask a question.
I really appreciate your nice comments about the operating cost section. P&I is not specifically included in the operating cost section. That's not to say that some owners don't include it as an 'hourly reserve'.
If you did a nice paint & interior job on a King Air for $60,000 once every 10 years and the plane was flow 300 hours per year, then the hourly reserve would be $20/hr.
Many owners see P&I as ____________________________________Question: Your operating cost information is very useful. It would be even more useful if I knew how many owners are being averaged into each listing. A single owner might not be representative of actual costs. Is there any way to find the number of planes represented in a single listing? Submitted by: Frank Schley
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Frank:
Thanks for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest, use our operating cost calculator and ask us a question.
Depending on the make and model, we receive from 2 to 8 submissions monthly for most popular makes and models. The ops cost on older limited production planes receive much less use. However, once we receive the submission, it is reviewed for accuracy and approved to be part of the average.
Frankly, the average is their so you can compare your own experience with that av ____________________________________Question: I'm a corporate pilot with more than 6000 hrs total and over 1000 in multi-engine airplanes; currently fly a navajo panther, my boss wants to upgrade in speed and altitude to meet our long routes, without going into the turbo-props, what general recomendation can you effer? Submitted by: Jairo Mancera
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Jairo,
Thanks for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest.com and ask a question.
If I understand your question, you basically want to increase speed and altitude. If you don't want to consider turbo-props, then a jet is the only option.
Base on your trip lengths, runway lengths, need to operate single pilot, passenger loads, budget and other factors, there are several alternatives.
I would recommend that you contact a professional in your area, who can help you answer some of the ____________________________________Question: i have always been interested in ww2 aircraft and have read about people owning the p51 and all sorts of planes from ww2. i am interested in the p40 and was wondering if looking for one would be futile. cost is not an issue if it is available. or would i have to build one from parts. can you help me out? Submitted by: Daniel
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Daniel,
Thanks for visiting PlaneQuest.com and for taking your time to ask a question.
Frankly, we have little experience in warbirds, but the following are a few references.
First, try www.courtesyaircraft.com; they sell lots of warbirds and may be of help.
Second, try www.classicjets.org; they are basically jet enthusiasts, but may be able to lead you in the right direction.
Mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I'm considering purchasing either an early 1980's Beech 58 Baron or Cessna 310R for personal use. Could you give some tips on some of the nuances between the planes such as operating costs, maintanence, performance, comfort and which would hold it's value better over the longterm? Submitted by: Craig Turner
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Craig,
Thanks for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest.com and to ask such an intelligent question.
Both are excellent planes. I personally prefer Barons, since I learned on them in the U.S. Army back in the '60's. But, Sky King liked the 310!
Raytheon is still building Barons and the 310 has been out of production for many years. Both have loyal followings.
Space doesn't allow a complete answer, so please e-mail me directly so we can share some thoughts.
mike@planequest.c ____________________________________Question: I hear lots of talk about overhauling engines. What types of overhauls are there? And when must they be done? i.e. every 2,000 hrs a must? I am considering buying a plane to lease back to a flight school and am concerned about this. Thank you for your time. Submitted by: Todd
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Todd:
Thanks for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and to ask a question.
With the approval of the FAA, engine overhaul times are determine by the manufacturer on the particular make & model aircraft they are hung on.
Although these time are "recommended", they become mandatory when the plane is rented or chartered.
The quality of overhauls vary from a simple "teardown, inspect, repair and reassemble" to a factory overhaul or remanufactured engine to new specs with new piston ____________________________________Question: What is the average price of a PA22-150 with approximately 1000SMOH
TT 3000?
Average avionics 6-7 inside and out.
I see them ranged from $15,000.00 to $35,000.00
Are any of them worth that much? Submitted by: Clarence Petzold
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Clkarence:
Thanks for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and to ask a question.
We don't value aircraft, but you can try AOPA.org.
Click on "Vref" for a step by step valuation.
Trade-A-Plane's web site also provides a valuation calculator.
Mike@PlaneQuest.com ____________________________________Question: Please note requesting information on operating cost for 200 hours per year for Piper Aztec 1977 approx.
I am considering purchasing one very soon. I's appreciate your fed back and opinion.
Thanks in advance Patrick Submitted by: Patrick Coulton
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Patrick:
Thanks for visiting PlaneQuest and for asking a question.
Please check out the Operating Cost Calculator on PlaneQuest for an average and you can adjust for your own proforma cost estimates in your area.
Mike@PlaneQuest.com ____________________________________Question: When I fly an airplane for a purchase test flight (acceptance flight), what is the list of things I should look for? Submitted by: Steve Maiman
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Steve:
Our complete report on "How to Buy a Plane" can be e-mailed to you directly from our site.
One of the sections is: [http://www.planequest.com/buyprocess/preprepurchaseinsp.doc]
It deals with all the things that should be checked during the flight check.
Mike@PlaneQuest.com ____________________________________Question: I like the operating cost section of your web site. Could you add information about the number of user reports you have received for each type. That would give people a better idea of the accuracy. After all if you only have information from one or two sources maybe they simply had much lower than normal cost.
Thanks David Submitted by: David Latham
SkyGuys Answer: Dear David:
Thanks for taking your time to visit PlaneQuest and for your excellent question.
As a matter of fact, we have put that request on our priority list for the next enhancement.
In the meantime, however, you should know that we have had literally thousands of submissions from operators like you. The volume is different per plane based one how many people own certain models. For instance, we have more submissions for the Cessna 172 than Citation X's.
However, since I am th ____________________________________Question: I am searching for a "general" figure of an hourly operating cost for a Beech 18 and was wondering if you might have that information, or can direct me to someone who would be willing to share that information. Submitted by: Ms. L. West
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Ms. West:
Thanks for visiting PlaneQuest and for your tough question.
Since the venerable Beech 18 is not in that much use, we do not have it in our operating cost database of over 284 planes. But, I will look further into putting it on our site.
In the meantime, there are 2 web sites that may be helpful: www.beech18.com and www.beech18.net.
Plus, you can go to YAHOO and do a search for "Beech 18". You'll get dozens of leads!
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: A would be first time plane owner, but long time renter of various complex single eng aircraft, I'm considering buying a Piper Turbo Arrow III or IV. Two questions: Could you discuss any potential engine, gear, airframe, or other problems the plane might be noteworthy for? Do you think this plane offers the best price/performance ratio for pleasure/business ops in a mountainous region such as Northwestern Nevada? Submitted by: Laurence Ulissey
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Laurence:
We try to stay away from direct recommendations.
However, a well maintained turbocharge Arrow would do a very nice job in the mountains.
You might checkout www.aeroprice.com for more information and leads. Then, I would seek out a company that specializes in maintenance on Arrows.
They can help you buy the best one for your mission and do a pre-purchase inspection, too. It might cost you a few dollars more, but it will save you a lot more than you will pay. Plus, it will ____________________________________Question: Good Morning,
I am considering the purchase of a 1982 Cessna 172P. The airplane appears to be in great shape, but it has not flown since June of last year when the anual was done. Many people have cautioned me about potential problems with corrosion on the cam do to moisture condensation. Should I truly be concerned about this? Is there any way to tell for sure if this plane is affected?
Thanks! Submitted by: Kevin Boyle
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Kevin,
Thanks for a great question. Yes, you should be concerned. You should make this a contingency of your purchase. I would recommend taking it to a good engine overhaul shop for an inspection, along with another annual inspection by a mechanic working for you.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: Howdy. Very informative BB. I'd like your opinion on the best 6 seater family plane to purchase in the $200-300k range? I've heard that light twins just get you to the crash scene faster. Are there any light twins that can actually stay aloft on one engine? I also like the relative roominess of the Navajo. Are there other cabin-class you would recommend? Thanks. Submitted by: Steve Fogarty
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Steve,
Thanks for using PlaneQuest.com!
There are many good 6 place singles in that price range. If you like a high wing, the 210 is great.
If you like a wider cabin, the Saratoga is a good choice. If you want big comfortable seats, plus headroom, you can't beat a Bonaza A36. Most people would agree that it is also the best built and safest. As far as cabin class twins, my experience flying Dukes and Cessna 414 has been excellent. If you need some specific help contact me directly. ____________________________________Question: Dear Skyguy, I know I'm reaching way out on this question, but here goes, I am a student and my home work is to write a proposal on purchasing a company aircraft, the specifics are $945,000 budget, 227 trips, longest trip 1450miles, average trip 730.3, 2passenger average, 17trips with 4-6passengers, 2 trips with 12 passengers,Minimum runway 5200', oh, there are 15 different destinations all originating from Temple,Tx. Any help would be much appreicated. Bill Submitted by: Bill Go
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Bill,
Good luck with your assignment. The principal here is to satisfy 80% of your most common needs. I'd look at the Cessna and Raytheon web site to start. You may end up needing an older Citation and using charter as a back up for the few trips with longer legs and more passengers. mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I'm looking to buy a plane and am wondering about single vs. multi-engine. The multi seems intuitively safer, but the NTSB numbers don't seem to support this. Multi's are also a good bit more expensive to operate. For 4-6 people and some gear going 300-600 miles do you have any comments / suggestions? Submitted by: Steve
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Steve,
Thanks for this favorite question. As an old instructor told me years ago, there are many answers.
Basically, both single and twins are very safe. I mostly worry driving to and from the airport.
But, it comes down to this. If you are flying along in your single engine plane and the engine quits, would you be ready, willing and able to have a good engine miraculously put on your wing and to write a check for twice the cost? mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I was interested in buying a cessna 172sp as a first plane. I would like to however find a partner or 2 in san diego. I am new to the whole flying scence, and was wondering what the best way to find partners is??? Submitted by: Andrew Strauss
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Andrew,
The best way to find a partner is to just put the word out, post your own ad on a bulletin board or in a local paper. Better yet, try buying time from someone who already owns a plane, before you become a partner. Dance before you get married, if you catch my drift!?
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: DEAR SKY BOYS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IN DIRECT COST FOR A CL600 VS A HS-800A. MSP ON BOTH..THANKS.. Submitted by: CHUCK PHYLE SR.
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Chuck,
If you will go to the Operating Cost Calculator on www.planequest.com, you can put in your own variables and let the calculator figure it out for you. ____________________________________Question: how would a wind flip over with damage to wings and tail, since repaired, impact the sale price of a cessna 172? Submitted by: gene barnette
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Gene,
That's a tough one. Many factors, besides the damage would need to be considered. How long since the repair? Who did the repair? How extensive is the damage?
Ulimately, the value becomes what someone is willing to pay. With damage, 90% the market isn't even interested in looking.
So, a flight school may be your best bet to start the search for pricing. ____________________________________Question: Thank you Sky Guys for your Great Website.
I am planning to buy a twin piston in the next 6-7 months and I am thinking about Cessna 421B, Duke B60 or Cessna 340A and my heart is with C421B.
My questions are:
1-Where do I find detailed reports and reviews about these aircrafts?
2-What would be your choise of the three? and why?
Thank you for your time
Cyrus Santoriello, California Submitted by: Cyrus L. Santoriello
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Chris,
Great question. Most people end up going where their heart is! I've personally helped three different people in the past 2 years with the same dilemma. One chose a 421, another a 414, another a Duke. None chose a 340, but it could also be a good fit based on your mission. For reports and details, try searching Yahoo for a specific plane type. If you need more help contact me directly. mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: How bad is the maintance history of beech dukes? I am thinking about this purchase. Submitted by: steve
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Steve,
That's a popular question. I hear it about 421's and their GTSIO engines. I hear that question on various planes. The answer is based on what you are used to, how well the plane has been maintained in the past and how it has been operated.
I'd suggest a few things. First, contact the Duke Flyers Association, PO Box 2599, Mansfield, OH 44906, phone 419-529-3822.
I have personally flow several well maintained Dukes and find that they cost no more to operate per mile than ____________________________________Question: I need to get another 200 miles range out of a King Air 90. Any mods which will accomplish that for me? Submitted by: Joe Edhlund
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Joe,
I'm assuming that you are talking about the 384 gallon King Air 90 series [C90s & older]. I am unaware of any fuel mods. The E90's have 474 gallon tanks and the F90s have 470 gallons. That extra fuel should get you an added 200+ miles with reserves.
It's a good time to buy. If we can be of help, contact me directly. mike @planequest.com ____________________________________Question: Where can I find a similar list of civilian helicopter operating costs? Submitted by: mike staier
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Mike:
Try www.helivalues.com, who may not have what you want, but it may give you some good leads.
As far as I know, PlaneQuest.com is the only site with airplane operating costs on over 280 makes & models. Maybe we'll consider helicopter costs in the future. ____________________________________Question: I'm a 200 hour pilot with a multi rating and about 10 hours in a Seneca, working on my instrument rating. I have a wife and four boys. I would like to get a light twin for the family. I've been thinking 310 or Baron. What do you think and how much more experience do I need for to get resonable insurance prices? Submitted by: drobertson@testpile.com
SkyGuys Answer: Great question! You are looking ahead.
First, our customers call AVEMCO. They are direct insurers with excellent customer service.
Next, try an aviation insurance broker, like Insurance Management Associates in Wichita. They will ask you the right questions to assess your specific situation [risk] and work with several underwriters to present an accurate story. Then they'll make recommendations. If you need any personal help, contact me directly. mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I am interested in purchasing a Cessna 152. Most likely it will be a VFR aircraft. What modifications need to be done to make it an IFR certified aircraft? Submitted by: Todd
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Todd,
That's a great question. There are probably several answers. But, if you'll check the POH for the plane it will list all the equipment required for Day/Night/VFR/IFR. You might also want to visit your local avionics shop to get a quote. ____________________________________Question: What is best most cost effecient and well made business jet on the market?and do you have an opion on the new eclipse 500 that will be comoing in 03 or 04?thanks for the time. Submitted by: curtis
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Curtis,
That's a question people pay thousands of dollars to find the answer to. No matter what answer you find, it could be easily challenged.
The answer really starts with your mission, then considers your wants & needs, and of course budjet.
I can tell you that several years ago the US Air Force did an extensive study for the tanker training program to determine the most cost effective jet over the life time training period that they foresaw [over 12 years]. The winner was t ____________________________________Question: Mike,
I live in Alaska and would like to know if their is a twin engine piston aircraft with the range(1500 miles)and usefull load for 4 adults that could make this trip with IFR reserves nonstop? Thanks.
Roger Submitted by: Roger Chan
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Roger,
You might look at a Cessna 421 with V/G's and extended range tanks. You'd have to operate it at best range power to get close to that mission capability. The next question is why would you want to spend that much time in a piston plane with 4 people without stopping. ____________________________________Question: I am in the process of purchasing my first plane and would like to know how the Cherokee 180 and the Beech Sundowner compare? Submitted by: Pam
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Pam,
They compare quite simarlarly and favorably. The Sundowner has 2 doors, is bigger inside, has very good visibility and was built [or as some say "over-built"] by Beech. It is in less demand than the Cherokee, so it's a good value.
The Cherokee has the same HP engine, but may be a bit faster depending on whether or not it has wheel pants. Check with you maintenance personnel concerning parts & labor costs.
I've flown them both and would be happy with either of them. ____________________________________Question: Dear Sky Guys,
Which type of aircraft do you prefer as per the Piper 180 or the Beech Sundowner? I am having a tough time in deciding since this will be my first plane, I would like your opinion.. Submitted by: Pam
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Pam,
If you are holding our feet to the fire and you were my sister, I'd say buy the Sundowner.
However, lots of other brothers would recommend the Cherokee. ____________________________________Question: I would like to know how far a Piper Cherokee would go on full fuel tanks. (I want to know before I ask my Dad to take me, incase it wasn't possible!) Submitted by: Robyn Nuttall
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Robyn,
Thanks for using PlaneQuest and for your question.
Unfortunately, you didn't indicate what model Cherokee you had in mind.
According to the manufacturer, in optimum VFR conditions, the Cherokee Six has an 84 gallon capacity & a 673 nm range. The rest of the Cherokee line has 50 gallon tanks of optional 50 gallon tanks, except the older "low gross" 140, which only has a 36 gallon tank. Most of the ranges are in the 400-700 nm distance.
You might ask your Dad, if you could ____________________________________Question: Hello.
3 Co-owners and myself are looking
to buy a PIPER Arrow, either 180hp or
200hp. We would like to base it at
a nearby grass airstrip......Any
problems with retracts + grass
airstrips?? Extra wear and tear?
It's possible to fly in and out of
the grass strips ----- but is it
very common?.good/bad idea? What are your thoughts?
Thank you.
Submitted by: H.Proft
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Gentlemen,
All grass strips are not created or maintaned equally. Before I'd buy anything, I would check with my aviation insurance broker and get a risk assessment and their recommendation. ____________________________________Question: I am looking for a low priced single engine 4 seater. I found the Beech Musketeer very similar to the Piper Warrior. But the Piper Warrior is nearly twice the price. Why is that? And do you have any other ideas for me. Thanks! Submitted by: Brad
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Brad,
Congratulations, you have just discovered the price result of the supply/demand curve.
All things being equal [which they seldom are] the Musketeer is in less demand, so it's price is less. If you can find a well maintained Musketeer for half the price of a Warrior, you should give it strong consideration. ____________________________________Question: I'm a student that is very close to completing my training. I am considering purchasing a plane - like a C-172 or something. Problem is, I don't know where to start. Any suggestions? Submitted by: Ira Klein
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Ira,
You are one of the people we built PlaneQuest for.
First, get our free report on how to buy a plane. Just sign up on one of many pages throughout the site.
Next, interview several aircraft dealers/brokers, who can help you. They may have what you want in their inventory, or will represent you, as a buyer's broker.
Then, be sure that an Annual "Prepurchase Inspection" is done by an independent third party shop who is familiar with 172's. ____________________________________Question: What would be a 4-6 passenger airplane with leading edge flaps? Submitted by: Julie
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Julie,
Sorry, we are not aware of a small plane with leading edge "slats". The Falcon jets are the only one's we know of that use slats, until you get into airliners. ____________________________________Question: Besides counting them, is there any way I could find out how many rivets there are on the particular cessna 152 we have here at our flight school? Submitted by: Julie
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Julie,
You might try going to www.cessna.com and sending that question to them. ____________________________________Question: What was the last year that Cessna made the 210 with the 470 engin,with out turbo? Submitted by: Steve Millican
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Steve,
The last year for the 210, normmally aspirated, with the IO-470 engine, was 1963. There never was a turbo model with a 470. ____________________________________Question: I am looking at buying a plane currently registered in Canada. I live in the US and wish to register it in the US. Any idea how much this will cost and how much paperwork will all be involved? Thanks! Submitted by: Brad
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Brad,
The paperwork on importing a plane is very important. You should contact a local A&P or IA who can help you or direct you to someone who can. You might also check with your local FAA FISDO. ____________________________________Question: Hello, I was wondering; Are there any engine/performance upgrades available for the P337? I have found the Robertson STOL kit offered by Sierra Industries, but the engine remains the same I believe. Thanks Submitted by: Tim Hollins
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Tim,
According to my information, both Riley and American Aviation have intercoolers available.
Super Skyrocket [nee Riley]has a TSIO-360 and a TSIO-520 NB available. Call 760-438-9089 for more info.
Performance upgrades include aux fuel tanks by Flint Aero, STOL by Horton, and power pak spoilers by Spoiler, Inc.
Good "high performance" flying! ____________________________________Question: I am attempting to ballpark fuel costs per hour for twin props w/greater than 250-hp each engine. What's a good ballpark number and what are some common GA twins that are that size? Submitted by: Mike Staier
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Mike,
That is a very thoughtful question. There are several Twins with more than 250 HP, including the old Twin Beech w/450 HP down to a Twin Bonanza with 260 HP and the whole Beech Baron series, plus the beautiful Duke with those 380 HP Lycomings.
Cessna counters with the big 421's using 375 HP down to the early 310F&G at 260 HP per side.
Piper offered the Pressurized Navajo with 425 HP, the Mojave w/350 HP, Chieftains, Navajo's Aerostars and Aztecs with varied horse-powered en ____________________________________Question: I'm looking at a 1979 Grumman (sp) Tiger- 180hp, GPS, etc. Are these good airplanes? What about parts, maintenance, ADs, etc.?
Thanks Submitted by: Brad Mitchell
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Brad,
The Grumman Tiger, now American General Tiger was very popular in 1979 when over 400 were built. It continues today as a popular alternative to other 180 HP fixed gear singles.
They seem to be holding there value fairly well even in this economy.
Gold Country Aviation, www.aucountry.com, advertises themselves as an authority on Tigers.
I'd give them a try, too.
____________________________________Question: How many seats does a pa 60 601p have? Submitted by: bill hourin
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Bill,
As I recall, all the Aerostars have 6 seats. However, a good number of owners pull out one of the middle seats for more legroom and ease of entry/exit. ____________________________________Question: I have been looking at the turbo Lances with the new cowl and intercooler mods. I have been told the engines still do not make it to TBO with these mods. They have to be top overhauled at *800 hrs. While the regularly aspirated Lance has a good reputation for going to TBO and beyond.
Can you please tell me if this is true. Thank you very much. Mark (still looking for that Lance) Submitted by: Mark Seifried
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Mark,
Thanks for your excellent question. This question typically comes up when comparing turbocharged versus normally aspirated engines.
There isn't a universal answer. However, let me first say that the engine experts will tell you that the engine doesn't know it is being turbo- charged. But, the pilot knows. I've flown many turbocharged planes over the years and know several professional pilots who have. Most of these engines wil go to TBO, if properly operated.
But, shock c ____________________________________Question: How many dual hours are required to get an endorsement for:
a) controllable propeller
b) retractable landing gear
Thanks,
Jack Submitted by: Jack Barker
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Jack,
Please check with a local flight instructor, but I believe that only a sign-off is required. No specific number of hours is required by the FAA.
However, the insurance company is another thing.
Please check with the insurance carrier through the broker to determine the number of hours they will require. ____________________________________Question: I have been a member of my local military flying club/school for sometime. In fact, I fly military aircraft for a living. Our flying club is in desperate need of 2 twins for training. I wanted to take out a small business loan or some other method of financing two small twin (i.e.Aztec, Seminole) under my name and lease back to the club. Given my salary of $70+ can I reasonably expect to make this happen and if it is feasible what am I up against? Submitted by: Drew
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Drew,
I am not a tax specialist and don't know your financial situation. However, as a former military pilot, who is familiar with flying clubs, I think you have a good idea.
Can this thing cash flow, so you don't have to put much money in? Probably not, unless the planes fly over 50 hours per month. If there was a positive cash flow monthy, people would be standing in line for the opportunity! They aren't!
Basically, the tax savings from depreciation [5 year Double Declining Bala ____________________________________Question: How does a FBO determine how much it will charge for fuel, instructor fees, aircraft rental fees, and charter fees? Submitted by: Ricky Chastain
SkyGuys Answer: Ricky,
Most prices are set by companies based on cost plus some profit margin that will keep them in business. In addition, the old supply and demand effects price as well as the price point of the customers. Competition on and around the airport also dictates what FBO's can charge for certain services. One of the largest costs an FBO has is the insurance it needs to carry. Some FBO's may charge a little more per hour for an aircraft rental, but the insurance coverage is much better for t ____________________________________Question: My 1976 Archer II was involved in a major accident, short of totaling the estimated $73K value, about $24K repair.
What is the average dimunition of value for resale that you typically see in the industry, in % value? The engine, prop were damaged, and the wing replaced.Thanks. (no injuries, a car pulled in front of us on landing at an airport) Submitted by: Dennis L. Brown
SkyGuys Answer: Dennis,
I glad to hear that everyone was okay in the accident.
Your question has been the topic of many discussion over the past years. The value of your aircraft could decrease from 0 to 10% of its retail value. The range is due to several factors like how long ago was the accident, who did the repair, how many hours have been put on the aircraft since the accident and what surfaces were damaged. In your case if the wing was replace with an undamaged replacement, and the engine and p ____________________________________Question: Obviously you need an instrument ticket to fly in IMC, but ... can a pilot without an instrument rating file and fly an instrument flight plane in VMC?? Submitted by: Levi
SkyGuys Answer: Levi,
No, a non instrument rated pilot can not file and instrument flight plan. But, a non-instrument rated pilot can file a VFR flight plan, fly the victor airways and utilize flight following from ATC (workload permitting) in VMC conditions.
Thanks
The Skyguys ____________________________________Question: Would you recommend a Grumman AA-1 as a trainer plane? My wife, brother and I currently rent Tomahawks but are looking to buy a plane to get us through our IFR certificates. Submitted by: Drew Crocker
SkyGuys Answer: Drew,
I had a student get his instrument rating in an AA-1. I found it to be not as stable as the cessna or piper products but it was a lot of fun to fly. He passed his test with no problem an still owns the plane today.
Thanks,
The Skyguys ____________________________________Question: I am interested in acquiring my first airplane and am confused by the disparity in performance when looking at website databases versus talking with actual owners of the same type. What is the best way to determine accurately the true airspeed of a particular type? Submitted by: john dews
SkyGuys Answer: John,
This question is exactly why we developed the operating cost section of planequest.com. We use the data provided from our users to come up with the average speed of a particular make and model of aircraft. This average is just that an average. Two aircraft of the same model will probably vary slightly in airspeed. This is the result of many variables such as age of the engine, parasitic drag (old paint verses new), center of gravity, weight, altitude of flight as well as others.
T ____________________________________Question: I'm trying to accurately compare 2001
Cessna T206, 2001 Saratoga Turbo
and 2001 Bonanza Turbo. Do you
have anything that compares costs,
payloads, maint and performance on
these planes?? Submitted by: george reilly
SkyGuys Answer: George,
Sounds like you are doing your homework! We have Operating Costs on 270 makes and models. Just enter your specifics and print them out individually for comparison. Try the manufacturers sites and www.aircraftdealers.net for performance information. Thanks for using PlaneQuest in your search for the right plane! The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: HI SKYGUYS
I am a student and I have to calculate all the costs of an Eclipse 500...and make a comparison with other similar planes...can you tell me what shall I include in the costs (maintenance,services,hangar,fuel...), but i just want to be sure.And how can I calculate how many hours would the plane be operative to cover the costs and make some profit of it. Submitted by: alec
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Alec,
You've ask us a great question! This is typical of what many operators want to know. Limited space here allows me only enough room to refer you to our operating costs section for over 270 makes & models. The Eclipse 500 isn't there yet, but you can use our format for your own cost calculations. Try the Eclipse web site for their details. The SkyGuys. ____________________________________Question: I am consedering the purschase of a Hawker 700 A but I am having a difficult time finding Range and Payload information that I can depend on can you help me with any sources? Submitted by: Jeff Powell
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Jeff,
Thanks for using PlaneQuest! According to the Bluebook the Hawker 700A has a useful load of approximately 10,650 lbs. With a full fuel capacity of 9450 lbs. that leaves 1200 lbs. for people & bags. Real life operations, however, depend on multiple factors from field elevation, runway lengths, temperature, mission profiles, etc. My suggestion is to work with people who operate Hawkers. We partner with a Hawker operator to help buyers make the best decisions! ____________________________________Question: Hey SKY GUYS,
I am getting ready to solo as a private pilot. I'm fairly young and am considering purchasing a warrior II. My instructor didn't seem to think buying a plane was a good idea. I would rather pay the expenses on a plane I own rather than paying the rental expenses. i know eventually i would have to use a rental due to the type of certification i was going for, but the hours i could accumulate would be helpful. Is it too early to buy?? Thanks. Submitted by: Chris
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Chris,
Under some circumstances your instructor could be correct. Each situation is different. Depending on the number of hours you plan on flying and your tax situation, owning a plane might be an excellent alternative to renting. Check with your financial advisors and an aircraft sales professional for additional opinions. The SkyGuys! ____________________________________Question: I am trying to find an on-line copy of the AC Form 8050-41. Could you provide a link? Submitted by: Kevin
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Kevin,
Our experts suggest www.faa.gov. Then, click on "How to find...FAA forms." The SkyGuys! ____________________________________Question: I'm new on the airplane thing, but I have a few questions as I start to do research. What type/style of plane carries roughly 10 people? I'm looking into getting my pilot liscense and eventually purchasing a plane. Basically I was just curious what price range I could expect a 10-person plane to go for.
Thanks Submitted by: Chip
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Chip,
Glad to hear that you are interested in the benefits of aviation.
A 10 passenger business aircraft is actually quite large. The typical seating is 2 crew and 4 to 6 seats. A $5.5 million Beech 350 propjet has 2+9, a $7.1 million Citation Ultra/Encore jet has 2+9. Check www.vref.com for more numbers. From there it just goes up. Hope that gives you a start. The SkyGuys! ____________________________________Question: Dear Sky Guys
I'm considering to buy a light twin. Based on my evaluation a Cessna Crusader would be the perfect AC. Pressurized, freight door (I transport on my flights sometimes bulky, not heavy boxes), deicing, low operating cost (according to your calculations) and last but not least a very good looking plane. But in the USA nobody seems to like this AC, there're just a few around. Is there a hidden problem?
Best regards
Harald Riner
Submitted by: Harald Riner
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Harald,
Thanks for a great question. All planes have their pluses and minuses. You might begin your search for the truth with www.Aviation Consumer.com/airplanereviews. I'd also talk with a maintenance shop that works on the "303". And, just call those individuals who have them for sale and speak with them. The SkyGuys! ____________________________________Question: OK ok ... here it is... I'm only licence
to drive a motorbike / car and a semi truck!!
Now all I want for Xmas is a lite mutli twin aircraft.. ( Piper, cessna,
beech)so my question to you is... what will it take to get me flying my own plane? And second.. what do you think is the best all round twin in the 1980 to 1990 range?? ( I know what your thinking.. another what a be!!)
Submitted by: Pete Skelly
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Pete,
The great thing about flying is that we all started at the same point, with only a desire and no flight experience. I'd suggest becoming a member of the Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association. Next, visit a local flight training school and take an introductory flight. The rest will just happen, or not. As far as a light twin, I'll take a 58 Baron. The SkyGuys! ____________________________________Question: My name is John and I am interested in purchasing a 1979 Beechcraft Sundowner. I cannot research the operating cost on your web site because the make and model is not available. What should I be aware of on the model that I am interested in and where can I research the material? What is your opinion of the brand and model that I am persuing?
Have a great day,
John Submitted by: John Hunt
SkyGuys Answer: Dear John,
Please check again under "Sundowner/Musketeer" towards the end of the alphabetical list. The Sundowner is an excellent plane and competes with the Piper Archer/180. Go to aviationconsumer.com to order a report on Sundowners. I've flow them, and love'm! They are roomy, have 2 doors, are very stable and well built. They are currently a good price/value, too. The Skyguys. ____________________________________Question: I am a low time pilot (+,-) 100 hrs. I want to purchase a P210. I cannot find any insurance. The best I have found is minimum time of 300 hours with 25 in type. I am willing to build time in type via instruction but 300 hours is to long. Any Ideas? Submitted by: Craig
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Craig:
Thanks for your question. Insurance is a challenge these days. You might try a direct insurer like AVEMCO, or a good aviation broker, who understands and communicates the "risk" to the underwriter accurately. You might also check the insurance situation for a Bonanza or Saratoga.
Hope that helps. The SkyGuys. ____________________________________Question: I have a 1974 Cherokee Six - 300 with all forward facing seats. Can the center 2 seats be turned around to creat a club seating style ? If so, is it a matter of swapping mounting hardware or is there a kit available?
Thanks,
John Submitted by: John R. DiMarzio
SkyGuys Answer: Dear John,
I am not aware of such a kit. I believe that the A36/B36TC Bonanza is the only single with reversible club seating. And that is a factory option. ____________________________________Question: What is the best type of Aircraft for a CAP (Civil Air Patrol) Squadron? Submitted by: David
SkyGuys Answer: Dear David,
The CAP uses all types. My guess is that availability of aircraft and specific type mission needs are the biggest factors. Why don't you talk with the local CAP people and get their opinion. The SkyGuys. ____________________________________Question: I am a student pilot and I am thinking of buying a cessna 172 for lease back. I would like to know how to set this up?
Do you think I can break even or even make money by doing this? Submitted by: john hutchins
SkyGuys Answer: Dear John,
What a great question. I started selling leasebacks to an aero club over 20 years ago, so I understand your question. The answer is that unless the plane flies a lot [80 hrs/mo.]it won't "cash flow." Now, after taxes, if it flies, say 20-30 hours monthly, you'll cover your fixed and variable costs, but not interest or principal. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: What is the Airworthiness LIMITATION for a PA44 (1979 Piper Seminole). I had read once that the TTAF was 14000 but recently I saw that this limitation had been lifted. Do you know if this "rumor" is true ar who I could possibly contact to find out. Thank you in advance for your time. Submitted by: Sandy
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Sandy,
Tough question. My suggestion is to contact a Piper service center, like Muncie Aviation or one in your area. They'll know. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: Could you add a line to the operating cost sheet that shows how many inputs make up the average. For the most part the numbers look pretty close. However, a couple of the Mooney's don't.
Thanks - what a great site I've found!
Submitted by: Tim T.
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Tim,
Thanks for your nice comments and the good suggestion. I'll pass it along to our technical people. That aside, the idea here is to allow you to "benchmark" your experience [or lack of]compared to an average of real operators, who submit their data to us. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: I'm running out of room in my Cessna 150 for my husband and four children (obviously still quite young). Any suggestions for a recreational pilot on a grass strip for an aircraft that will hold my crew yet keep flying affordable? Thanks. Submitted by: Barb Stefanyshyn-Cote
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Barb,
Congratulations on 4 children and flying out of a grass strip. As a recreational flier, you might see if a Cherokee 6 would be insurable. You should be able to find some older ones in the $50-60K range. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: I´m looking to buy my first plane, should i spend $200K-$300K in a new Cessna 172SP or 182, or get soming older for the sama money like a Piper Saratoga o Cherokee.
Where is the money best spent?
Thank You Submitted by: Alfredo Guerra
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Alfredo,
You pose an interesting question, which eventually is a choice that most buyers deal with.
Your question also compared a 4 seat plane with a six seat plane.
I would suggest that first you define your mission, your capabilities, and insurance requirements, then consider your budget. Finally, look at the market place and compare. The SkyGuys. ____________________________________Question: How much negotiating "room" can I expect if I buy a new Cessna from a dealer?
And what kind of deal (if any) might I be able get them to commit to on this purchase about trading up in the future? Submitted by: Larry
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Larry,
Today there is very little, if any, room to negotiate, since the new Cessna programs have reduced margins to around 7%.
Most trade up deals are only based on wholesale market value at the time of trade up. Any other "promises" better be in writing. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: Who developed the cost for he operating cost sheet and how were they determined. Submitted by: Brian
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Brian,
The interactive Operating Cost calculator for over 270 makes & models was developed using industry research and experience. It includes variable and fixed expenses. It is updated and made more accurate by operators and owners, who submit their real life experiences. We review these submissions and approve or reject them. Our follow up suggests pretty real numbers. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: My compliments on your site for operating costs...however, do you have
a similar comparison whereby I can compare performance of say C340,C414 & C421.
I'd like to do a side by side comparison of usual performance data & overlay this with net payloads etc, and then proceed to select an aircraft to purchase, using your website for the classified from which to select.
Thank you.
Submitted by: Jerry Rasmussen
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Jerry,
Thanks for you nice comments. It is thanks to the many owners and opersators, who submit their real life experiences that make the Operating Cost Calculator possible. You can get performance numbers at several sites, but we like www.aircraftdealers.net the best. Also, try www.myairplane.com. The SkyGuys. ____________________________________Question: I have about 1000 hours in a B-33. I want to move up to a twin and would like to know your opinion on the best and saftest Submitted by: Matt Whitaker
SkyGuys Answer: Matt, from my personal experience, I think you would be very comfortable and competent in a B55 Baron or a Travelair, depending on your mission and budget. Tha SkyGuys. ____________________________________Question: I'm thinking of purchasing my first airplane. I have a friend who is thinking of selling his 1946 ErCoupe.
He has let me fly it from time to time and I think it's a nice little plane. He has taken very good care of it.
My question is: What should I look for in the pre-purchase before I get all excited and hand him a check!!
Thank you Submitted by: Victor Ruiz
SkyGuys Answer: Victor, as we recommend to all our clients, have a mechanic, who knows that make & model do a full Annual. That way everything is looked at. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: on thr turbo lance or saratoga is there a problem with the engines running hotter than they should,and if so have they improved the problem in later sn# planes? Submitted by: larry spann
SkyGuys Answer: Larry, we aren't experts on any particular make & model, but I would ask that same question to the folks in the Piper division of Signature Flight Support, Muncie Aviation or one of several Piper maintenance facilities on the west coast. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: I am interested in buying a Piper Twin Comanche with turbos and deice. I have seen some with one or the other, but not both. Can you tell me how one can add turbos and/or deice equipment to planes not so equipped? Where can this be done?
Thanks. Submitted by: Steve Powell
SkyGuys Answer: Steve, I'd check with Muncie Aviation. You might also try the Piper division or Signature Flight Support. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: What company has the best insurance for a Cessna 208 for a part 135 freight operation? Submitted by: Greg Dowdy
SkyGuys Answer: Greg, insurance questions are always interesting. Because only a few companies underwrite all the aviation insurance, an "avaition broker" can only get youo the best policy & cost when he clearly understands and communicates your particular "risk situation" to the underwriters. Additionally, Avemco writes directly, so call them yourself to compare with the best your broker can find. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: Do you have any operating cost info for a Piper Cherokee 140/160?? Submitted by: Kevin
SkyGuys Answer: Kevin,
We have included those cost averages under Piper Warrior/150/160. They can be found at the end of the list of Piper planes. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: does anyone have a website that shows spec's on older aircraft.. specifically interior demensions( head room, hip room, leg room etc etc) thanx phil Submitted by: phil
SkyGuys Answer: Phil,
You might try www.aerofiles.com. They have an enormous amount of historical information about aviation. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: I own a 421 Golden Eagle III and have heard that there is a conversion kit to convert it to the equivalent of a 425. is this true and where can I find out about this?
IF there is such a conversion, is it possible to have it 135 certified? Submitted by: Jeff Jones
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Jeff,
A turbine conversion of the Cessna 421 was done by Jack Riley with Pratt & Whitney PT6A-135 engines. You might check Trade-A-Plane under Conquest 1 or Corsair for any that may be advertized for sale. Check with your local FAA FISDO concerning Part 135 certification. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: The Operating Costs section is extremely useful. Can you tell me whether the cost of ownership (either the aircraft cost with depreciation or as a dry lease rate) is included somewhere in these figures. If so which section?
Many Thanks for your help. Submitted by: Charles Gardner
SkyGuys Answer: Charles,
Operating Costs are only those incurred in the operation of the plane. Ownership costs, interest expense, taxes and tax savings from depreciation are not included. Additionally, crew salaries are not included. The ops costs numbers are submitted by real operators and owners, plus they are reviewed before accepted for viewing. Hope that helps. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: Sky guys I would like to know if there is away to put a 200hp engine in my PA28R-180 Arrow? The 180hp is 10 hours from TBO. I have talked with engine builders and the A/C manufacture they say they have no approvals. In the year my aircraft was manufactured they offered both the 180hp or the 200hp. Please help Thamks Submitted by: Carl Anderson
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Carl,
Good idea! I talked with an industry expert, Bill Schmidt, the owner of Signature Engines in Cincinnati. He said that it could probably be done, although there is no STC. However, he said that since the baffling, exhaust system, prop and many other things are different, it would be smarter financially to sell what you have and trade up. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: Hey SKY GUYS! I just got a job as a flight paramedic on twin engine cessna crusaders.If you can't tell already I KNOW next to NOTHING about planes. The planes seem old needing interior cosmetics.I figure its safer than the crazy unrestrained back of the ambulance transportsI've been doing. Do I have anything to worry about?? I know cosmetic work is a lot different than mechanical work. Submitted by: Frank
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Frank,
Many people don't ask the question you just did.
Fortunately, air ambulances come under the same regulations as aircraft charters. My suggestion would be to visit with the local FAA Flight Standards District Office [FSDO], phonetically pronounced "fizz-doe". They'll tell you all you'd like to know about a particular plane or operation. Just give them the tail number. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: I'm looking to purchase an McDonnell Douglas OH6 or equivilant and want to find the average maintenience cost this aircraft. I can't seem to find any information anywhere on the topic. Thanks. Submitted by: Gil
SkyGuys Answer: Gil,
At present, we only have operating costs on 270 makes and models of airplanes. Maybe in the future we'll do helicopters. You might try your local helicopter sales & service company for assitance. The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: Where is the best place to check the value of an aircraft. I have been using the NAAA Evaluator on Tradaplane and sometimes AOPA. It seems to always come up with a value way less than the asking price. Sometimes as much as 10-15k. A dealer told me he used "Aircraft Bluebook Digest". So I did a search using that, and your web site came up. Is there some place I am missing on your site that I can plug in the specs on a plane and get a value? Submitted by: David
SkyGuys Answer: David,
Great question! All of the values are from past sales information with subjective factors included. I would treat them as relative values or benchmarks. The actual value of a plane is what a willing seller and a willing buyer agree upon. If you will use our spreadsheets and the PlaneQuest buying process, you'll get the right plane at the right price. We've done it for over 20 years! Good luck! The SkyGuys ____________________________________Question: What is the current state of the new and used Malibu Mirage PA46-350P market. Do you think it is a good time to buy a late tear model. What is the general perception of the market and of the future. Difficult question I know. Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thank you Submitted by: Jason Plato
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Jason,
Thanks for your excellent question. With the war, economy and the crankshaft AD, it is an uncertain time. It is also a great time to buy. When supply exceeds demand, prices tend lower. Many entreprenurial individuals are buying now. I'd suggest contacting Signature Piper, Muncie Piper or one of the California Piper dealers. Or contact me directly. Mike@PlaneQuest.com ____________________________________Question: I am comparing a late 70's early 80's Piper Seneca against a Cessna 210 maybe early 80's. Basically you can by either for the same price. The speed is about the same for both, but the operating cost for the Seneca is about 40% higher. Why would I buy a twin Seneca that would cost 40% more to operate, when I could buy a Cessna 210 that would go about the same speed and cost less to operate, not to mention the fact you only have one engine to worry about.
Thanks Submitted by: Chuck
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Chuck,
Thanks for your classic question. The twin fliers would say that the Seneca has a better glide ratio with one engine failed. Seneca owners will tell you there is more room, probably more useful load, back up systems [electric & vacuum]and safer, especially at night. If you wouldn't benefit from these things, the 210 is for you.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: To Whom it May Concern:
I have reviewed your website. Very interesting and I like it. I am interested in purchasing an aircraft for Part 135 charter ops. I would use your site for researching and comparing candidate aircraft and consultative services.
I am interested in specific detailed responses to questions. Can I get that as a member of your site? What do I get for my membership fees?
Thanks,
Joseph Bright
Joebright@juno.com Submitted by: Joseph Bright
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Joe,
Thanks for using all the resources of PlaneQuest. That's why we put them here. The good news is that we are funded by the sellers of planes who put full specs and unlimited pictures on PlaneQuest for a small one time charge until their plane sells. So, your membership is free and we'll help you all we can for nothing! Maybe one day you'll use us to advertise your plane, product or service for sale. Mike @PlaneQuest.com ____________________________________Question: Hi. I'm considering the purchase of my first plane. I've pretty much decided on a Cessna 172. I'm considering something around 1965 to 1967 because I like the idea of a six cylinder (the Continental o-300). I live in Arizona so there is lots of good weather for flying. If not the o-300, then maybe a 1974 through 1976 M model. What is your opinion and suggestions. Best Regards. Tim Submitted by: Tim Tucker, Sr.
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Tim,
The multitude of 172 engine combinations from 145 HP Continentals to 180 HP conversions becomes a matter of choice and price. I'd suggest visiting http://www.cessna.org/. For every opinion available there are several in the other direction, so I'd get it straight from the other owners! Mike@PlaneQuest.com ____________________________________Question: Using the operating costs in PlaneQuest for a Cessna 310, I do not see operating costs for turbo 310. How much more are the operating costs for a turbo 310? Example 1975 T310R.
If the turbo 310 is also used for multi engine training should we expect higher operating costs based on the single engine work. Expect 25 hours per month for multi engine training. Submitted by: Gary Carlson
SkyGuys Answer: Dear Gary,
Thanks for your question. Figure about $4.00 per hour more for the engine and an extra 2 gallons/hour for fuel. Plus, add about $1.00-2.00/hr more for maintenance. I would not recommend a turbo for multiengine flight training. The shock cooling of the engines and coking up of the turbo will get very expensive.
mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I looking to purchase a commander 114b, but I am concerned on the effect of there recent bankruptcy filing. What do think will happen to parts availability or resale value? Should I consider other comparable aircraft? Submitted by: John
SkyGuys Answer: John,
Yours is a great question. I don't know enough about the underlying strength or management of Commander. Parts could become a problem, as they have with similar situation. I would not dismiss the 11B outrighth, but I'd look at comparable aircraft, too. Contact me directly, if you need more help. mike@planequest.com ____________________________________Question: I am thinking of buying a 1976 PANTHER NAVAJO for my birthday, plese can you tell me what is the cruise speed of such a plane?
Thanks!!!!!!
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